Excerpt: "Western science and philosophy have always had a problem and [the problem is] that they where based on the theory that there is a physical, material, external world. But they have recognized that it is only a theory, and it can never be proven. But they don't let you know that in school. They teach you it as a presupposition, as if it where a fact, but they know it is only a theory. And most of the Western philosophers . . . have recognized the impossibility of proving that there is an external world, Kant is famous for saying that we can never know the thing in itself, das Ding an sich. All you can know is your own consciousness..." Recorded on the afternoon of Sunday, September 25, 2011.